Tweets from the collection xAuth to OAuth on tweetlibrary.com. http://tweetlibrary.com/manton/xauthtooauth http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/73500550972448768 @gruber That's the question. It will be difficult for Twitter to argue that TweetDeck is "part of the service". Wed, 25 May 2011 21:27:51 +0000 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/73500550972448768 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/73498984886435840 @gruber Of course not. Why on earth would Twitter subject their users to such a thing? Wed, 25 May 2011 21:21:38 +0000 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/73498984886435840 http://twitter.com/gruber/statuses/73498361185054721 Will TweetDeck have to use OAuth? Wed, 25 May 2011 21:19:09 +0000 http://twitter.com/gruber/statuses/73498361185054721 http://twitter.com/timhaines/statuses/73447918467694593 I think I can hear the @TweetDeck engineers in Europe rejoicing that they don't need to integrate the OAuth authentication workflow now. Wed, 25 May 2011 17:58:43 +0000 http://twitter.com/timhaines/statuses/73447918467694593 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/73142444350386178 @SteveStreza I seriously considered removing DMs, but that only hurts customers. Just a bad deal all around. Tue, 24 May 2011 21:44:52 +0000 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/73142444350386178 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/73140487246188545 @manton I'm prepared to code for OAuth when/if needed. But if there's going to be grandfathering, I want in ;) Tue, 24 May 2011 21:37:05 +0000 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/73140487246188545 http://twitter.com/SteveStreza/statuses/73139890019254272 I wonder if any Twitter clients will have the stones to remove DMs from their app, instead of removing xAuth. Tue, 24 May 2011 21:34:43 +0000 http://twitter.com/SteveStreza/statuses/73139890019254272 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/73135333327376384 @danielpunkass Glad you got xAuth, but I wonder if you'll save time by coding to OAuth now anyway. Twitter has no love for legacy. Tue, 24 May 2011 21:16:36 +0000 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/73135333327376384 http://twitter.com/gedeon/statuses/73057824086827008 This is what Twitter's authentication change brings to 3rd party clients - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2320369/oauth.mov Tue, 24 May 2011 16:08:37 +0000 http://twitter.com/gedeon/statuses/73057824086827008 http://twitter.com/BigZaphod/statuses/72709340074749952 Can't wait for Twitter to start pimping their own apps on the OAuth sign in page. Mon, 23 May 2011 17:03:52 +0000 http://twitter.com/BigZaphod/statuses/72709340074749952 http://twitter.com/rno/statuses/71312421897248769 Just created an FAQ page for our Application Permission Model. Will keep updating it as long as questions come. http://t.co/1TZXN80 Thu, 19 May 2011 20:33:00 +0000 http://twitter.com/rno/statuses/71312421897248769 http://twitter.com/themattharris/statuses/71308790896660480 I've just posted a few more answers to questions about the new permission level http://t.co/28WeLX6 Thu, 19 May 2011 20:18:35 +0000 http://twitter.com/themattharris/statuses/71308790896660480 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/71294420267450368 @themattharris That leaves me with one option: the use a built-in browser, pretend to be a web app, and sniff the connections. Thu, 19 May 2011 19:21:29 +0000 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/71294420267450368 http://twitter.com/stevenf/statuses/71269546295701504 You guys, I thought "they own the platform they can do whatever they want" was the new mantra for the post-app-store world. Thu, 19 May 2011 17:42:38 +0000 http://twitter.com/stevenf/statuses/71269546295701504 http://twitter.com/gruber/statuses/71264768320745472 Is there a single developer of a native Twitter client app who is happy about the forced switch to OAuth? Thu, 19 May 2011 17:23:39 +0000 http://twitter.com/gruber/statuses/71264768320745472 http://twitter.com/CraigGrannell/statuses/71255531049857024 By me: Twitter inflicts further dev pain, featuring special guest star @mattgemmell http://t.co/AZh289e Thu, 19 May 2011 16:46:57 +0000 http://twitter.com/CraigGrannell/statuses/71255531049857024 http://twitter.com/dannygreg/statuses/71255284697403392 So it seems @twitterapi have decided that the horrific user experience of OAuth is acceptable. To think I thought they saw sense with xAuth! Thu, 19 May 2011 16:45:58 +0000 http://twitter.com/dannygreg/statuses/71255284697403392 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/71252586963025920 @SteveStreza @tapbot_paul Thanks Steve! Nice to know that you can get the account info from the token body (SSToken) — that's a biggie! Thu, 19 May 2011 16:35:15 +0000 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/71252586963025920 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71252334113599488 @marcoarment #3 things change, true. but some changes are better than others. i think Twitter has many alternatives that are better. Thu, 19 May 2011 16:34:14 +0000 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71252334113599488 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71252324085010432 @marcoarment #2 no one is saying that they *cannot*, they are saying they *should not* these changes will make Twitter worse for customers. Thu, 19 May 2011 16:34:12 +0000 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71252324085010432 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71252316543660032 @marcoarment #1 you're just wrong. every app that shows DMs will have to change to at least remove the UI or add OAuth. it's a big deal. Thu, 19 May 2011 16:34:10 +0000 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71252316543660032 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/71247651496136705 @marcoarment The problem with your point 2 is that it can be used to justify many terrible ideas. "Because we can" is not good enough. Thu, 19 May 2011 16:15:38 +0000 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/71247651496136705 http://twitter.com/gedeon/statuses/71245339054702592 Just signed up for identi.ca. You should in no way anything into this incredibly random happenstance - http://identi.ca/gedeon Thu, 19 May 2011 16:06:27 +0000 http://twitter.com/gedeon/statuses/71245339054702592 http://twitter.com/SteveStreza/statuses/71245129205293056 @chockenberry @tapbot_paul https://github.com/amazingsyco/oauthery Thu, 19 May 2011 16:05:37 +0000 http://twitter.com/SteveStreza/statuses/71245129205293056 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/71244486675677185 @tapbot_paul @jasoncosta Agreed. Sample code that's not web-based would be very helpful. Would help everyone understand the problem… Thu, 19 May 2011 16:03:03 +0000 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/71244486675677185 http://twitter.com/PenLlawen/statuses/71244107019849729 If you watch it backwards, Twitter's API is a remake of A Christmas Carol; a bitter control freak wins friends by becoming helpful and kind. Thu, 19 May 2011 16:01:33 +0000 http://twitter.com/PenLlawen/statuses/71244107019849729 http://twitter.com/tapbot_paul/statuses/71242853162033152 @jasoncosta here's something that'd help. Sample iPhone code that shows the proper way to do an oAuth flow and can handle multiple users. Thu, 19 May 2011 15:56:34 +0000 http://twitter.com/tapbot_paul/statuses/71242853162033152 http://twitter.com/Lessien/statuses/71242125030858752 Finding it hard not to see Twitter's API policy changes as an attempt to kneecap Uber Media. Smaller developers are collateral damage. Thu, 19 May 2011 15:53:40 +0000 http://twitter.com/Lessien/statuses/71242125030858752 http://twitter.com/marcoarment/statuses/71241014039416832 Devil's advocate on Twitter's DM-OAuth change: http://t.co/3AshGLU Thu, 19 May 2011 15:49:15 +0000 http://twitter.com/marcoarment/statuses/71241014039416832 http://twitter.com/justinw/statuses/71236655272566785 I'd actually respect Twitter slightly more if they just came out and shut off API access rather than inconveniencing devs to force them out. Thu, 19 May 2011 15:31:56 +0000 http://twitter.com/justinw/statuses/71236655272566785 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71230729442435073 @jmwolfinbarger They should take a page from Machiavelli and deliver all their bad news at once. "No more 3rd party Twitter apps." Thu, 19 May 2011 15:08:23 +0000 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71230729442435073 http://twitter.com/jmwolfinbarger/statuses/71229852849676288 @danielpunkass My impression is they're not interested in winning the PR war. They've made a decision and are prepared to weather the storm. Thu, 19 May 2011 15:04:54 +0000 http://twitter.com/jmwolfinbarger/statuses/71229852849676288 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71229445087825920 Talking down to outrage loses the PR war. Thu, 19 May 2011 15:03:17 +0000 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71229445087825920 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71228694118678528 Twitter's @rsarver has studied the Jedi mind trick, but hasn't perfected it. These apps are not apps. They're services! http://t.co/FOLWt96 Thu, 19 May 2011 15:00:18 +0000 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71228694118678528 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71228672664797185 Macworld says I'm melancholy http://tumblr.com/xip2l8xhj2 snif. Thu, 19 May 2011 15:00:13 +0000 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71228672664797185 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71218713306738688 As usual, @gruber nails it. http://tumblr.com/xip2l8jj1l Thu, 19 May 2011 14:20:39 +0000 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71218713306738688 http://twitter.com/tapbot_paul/statuses/71203940733165568 Today would be a very good day for Google to announce a Micro Blogging service. Thu, 19 May 2011 13:21:57 +0000 http://twitter.com/tapbot_paul/statuses/71203940733165568 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71200531032457216 @violasong Thank you! Great to hear from somebody who is well versed in developing a Twitter client :) Thu, 19 May 2011 13:08:24 +0000 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71200531032457216 http://twitter.com/mattgemmell/statuses/71147728880680960 Proposed hashtag for impending Twitter client updating deadline: #authpocalypse. Thu, 19 May 2011 09:38:35 +0000 http://twitter.com/mattgemmell/statuses/71147728880680960 http://twitter.com/mattgemmell/statuses/71146819685588992 Next up from Ryan Sarver: third-party Twitter clients must request auth tokens by mail, enclosing a prepaid envelope. Thu, 19 May 2011 09:34:58 +0000 http://twitter.com/mattgemmell/statuses/71146819685588992 http://twitter.com/mattgemmell/statuses/71146053688238080 Official Coffee Times commence. Today's theme: Man, can Twitter do _anything_ right anymore? Thu, 19 May 2011 09:31:55 +0000 http://twitter.com/mattgemmell/statuses/71146053688238080 http://twitter.com/violasong/statuses/71106423823671296 @danielpunkass Great write-up! I sure hope someone at Twitter is considering your solutions. Thu, 19 May 2011 06:54:27 +0000 http://twitter.com/violasong/statuses/71106423823671296 http://twitter.com/damon/statuses/71085180374368256 This just makes me angry http://daringfireball.net/2011/05/twitter_shit_sandwich ; https://twitter.com/#!/rsarver/status/70917459078680577 Thu, 19 May 2011 05:30:02 +0000 http://twitter.com/damon/statuses/71085180374368256 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71065071610109952 I discovered I have more than 140 characters of opinion about Twitter's actions today: http://t.co/NsbilwK Thu, 19 May 2011 04:10:08 +0000 http://twitter.com/danielpunkass/statuses/71065071610109952 http://twitter.com/peternlewis/statuses/71053706359091200 Really waiting for someone to knock Twitter off its perch. I mean, developers would support a twitter alternative in a hearty beat currently Thu, 19 May 2011 03:24:58 +0000 http://twitter.com/peternlewis/statuses/71053706359091200 http://twitter.com/daringfireball/statuses/71029839016103936 Translation From Weasel-Speak to English of the Key Question in Twitter’s FAQ for Developers Regarding Their New Policy f… http://df4.us/hnb Thu, 19 May 2011 01:50:07 +0000 http://twitter.com/daringfireball/statuses/71029839016103936 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/71027616571850752 Distracted today, finally caught up on Twitter's announcement that they will break DMs in every Mac/iOS client... except their own. Furious. Thu, 19 May 2011 01:41:18 +0000 http://twitter.com/manton/statuses/71027616571850752 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71021306849665024 when @al3x left twitter we wrote that he was crazy; we regret the error. Thu, 19 May 2011 01:16:13 +0000 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/71021306849665024 http://twitter.com/SteveStreza/statuses/71019111563530240 Kind of want to write more about the #DMpocalypse. Maybe I should change the name of my blog to "Dumb Shit @TwitterAPI Does". Thu, 19 May 2011 01:07:30 +0000 http://twitter.com/SteveStreza/statuses/71019111563530240 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/71010055167803393 we've been listening to feedback and are going to extend the transition timeline by two weeks to June 14th. more here: http://t.co/gh5FSGD Thu, 19 May 2011 00:31:31 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/71010055167803393 http://twitter.com/daringfireball/statuses/70963141906935808 ★ Twitter’s Shit Sandwich: http://df4.us/hn8 Wed, 18 May 2011 21:25:06 +0000 http://twitter.com/daringfireball/statuses/70963141906935808 http://twitter.com/jsnell/statuses/70960145164808192 @rsarver Would be nice if you could provide some mechanism that allows clients to connect without forcing them into a web view. Wed, 18 May 2011 21:13:11 +0000 http://twitter.com/jsnell/statuses/70960145164808192 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/70951413517271041 @jasoncosta @tapbot_paul Can you help get us through the Apple review queues in less than two weeks, too? :-) Wed, 18 May 2011 20:38:29 +0000 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/70951413517271041 http://twitter.com/zorn/statuses/70948328443088896 It's particularly frustrating that the official twitter apps will be getting special treatment. Thats some grade A bullshit. cc/ @rsarver Wed, 18 May 2011 20:26:14 +0000 http://twitter.com/zorn/statuses/70948328443088896 http://twitter.com/jasoncosta/statuses/70947249630347264 @tapbot_paul we're available to help with the transition to web flow if an app wants DM access. Wed, 18 May 2011 20:21:57 +0000 http://twitter.com/jasoncosta/statuses/70947249630347264 http://twitter.com/jsnell/statuses/70923239035113472 @chockenberry @gruber Okay, it's clear from further @rsarver tweets that Twitter is committed to bad startup UI for all 3rd party apps. Wed, 18 May 2011 18:46:32 +0000 http://twitter.com/jsnell/statuses/70923239035113472 http://twitter.com/rcw3/statuses/70922856472649728 @chockenberry The logic that @rsarver is using to defend the continued attack by Twitter on 3rd party devs is pretty disgusting Wed, 18 May 2011 18:45:01 +0000 http://twitter.com/rcw3/statuses/70922856472649728 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70921428899336192 @abraham offered by the service provider. users grant us that permission and store their password with us. not the same as a 3rd party Wed, 18 May 2011 18:39:20 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70921428899336192 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70920755419942912 @chockenberry I disagree. I'd love feedback on how we to improve the usability while still giving users clarity on what they are granting Wed, 18 May 2011 18:36:40 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70920755419942912 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70920322236420097 @gruber OAuth is for 3rd parties who need access to the service provider. we are the service provider Wed, 18 May 2011 18:34:57 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70920322236420097 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/70920196541517824 @rsarver A traditional OAuth flow in your apps makes as much sense as it does in ours. Hurts usability, ask Loren: http://bit.ly/JfCoH Wed, 18 May 2011 18:34:27 +0000 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/70920196541517824 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70919598727376896 @chockenberry it is level for all 3rd party developers. Not sure how it maks sense that a user would see an OAuth flow for Tw4iPhone Wed, 18 May 2011 18:32:04 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70919598727376896 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/70919306795429888 @rsarver So you're confirming that the playing field isn't level for third party developers? Wed, 18 May 2011 18:30:55 +0000 http://twitter.com/chockenberry/statuses/70919306795429888 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70917459078680577 @chockenberry twitter apps are part of the "service", not 3rd party apps asking for permission to access an account Wed, 18 May 2011 18:23:34 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70917459078680577 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70915392905805824 @orian not sure that's a comparison. the team isn't sitting around. we have a small team that needs to prioritize. I know you do the same Wed, 18 May 2011 18:15:21 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70915392905805824 http://twitter.com/stevestreza/statuses/70915377630150656 At #devnestSF, less than a week ago, I specifically asked about more granular permissions around DMs. @rsarver said nothing about it. Wed, 18 May 2011 18:15:18 +0000 http://twitter.com/stevestreza/statuses/70915377630150656 http://twitter.com/orian/statuses/70915120062140417 @rsarver I'm really glad to see Twitter wanting to move quicker w things, but it takes 6m - 1yr for Twitter to fix documentation errors Wed, 18 May 2011 18:14:16 +0000 http://twitter.com/orian/statuses/70915120062140417 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70914945696530432 @orian we feel it's important to have a short window for a change in permissions models. obviously we're not doing it on a whim :) Wed, 18 May 2011 18:13:35 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70914945696530432 http://twitter.com/orian/statuses/70914658168614912 @rsarver my question is what is the rush? Seems like you're creating a lot of developer anxiety on whim, for what benefit? Wed, 18 May 2011 18:12:26 +0000 http://twitter.com/orian/statuses/70914658168614912 http://twitter.com/timhaines/statuses/70914103174119424 @rsarver "Permissions changes need to be done as quickly as we can" is BS when it's been the status quo for years. Wed, 18 May 2011 18:10:14 +0000 http://twitter.com/timhaines/statuses/70914103174119424 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/70905804852695040 @rsarver - are you guys serious about this xAuth DM thing? won't that be a support nightmare for you guys (and us 3rd party guys too)? Wed, 18 May 2011 17:37:15 +0000 http://twitter.com/isaiah/statuses/70905804852695040 http://twitter.com/funkatron/statuses/70903683348570112 @rsarver You make me regret ever helping your service and other devs back in 2007. It's an embarassment. Wed, 18 May 2011 17:28:50 +0000 http://twitter.com/funkatron/statuses/70903683348570112 http://twitter.com/funkatron/statuses/70903436719308801 @rsarver remember when you told me how important it was that 3rd party devs felt respected? How do you think we feel now, Ryan? Wed, 18 May 2011 17:27:51 +0000 http://twitter.com/funkatron/statuses/70903436719308801 http://twitter.com/funkatron/statuses/70903312559521792 @rsarver cool, I'm glad you're admitting it isn't a level playing field, and you're actively trying to kill us off. Wed, 18 May 2011 17:27:21 +0000 http://twitter.com/funkatron/statuses/70903312559521792 http://twitter.com/tapbot_paul/statuses/70900244514213888 @jasoncosta @themattharris I'd really ask you guys to re-consider not allowing xAuth apps to access DMs. This will break tons of clients. Wed, 18 May 2011 17:15:10 +0000 http://twitter.com/tapbot_paul/statuses/70900244514213888 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70898050855477248 OAuth update around DM access: "Mission: Permission" http://t.co/DqMg7CC via @twitter Wed, 18 May 2011 17:06:27 +0000 http://twitter.com/rsarver/statuses/70898050855477248